BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR

MARCH 28, 2009

　

　

BRIAN: WELCOME TO THE BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RELAPSE PREVENTION. FOLKS WONDERING WHY THEY CAN’T STOP AND THIS IS A CALL IN SHOW AND I HOPE THAT YOU ARE LISTENING AND IF SO GIVE US A CALL AT 770-226-0920 AND OUTSIDE THE AREA 1-888-920-2665 AGAIN THE LOCAL NUMBER IS 770-226-0920. SO

JILL: I JUST, WELL I SIT DOWN AND WE GIVE ALL OF OUR INFORMAITON AND TALK THROUGH IT AND THEN WE DECIDE TO GO OVER THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER AT THE END OF THE SHOW AND THEN WE GET DISTRACTED AND YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE AND I PULL YOU BACK, SO LET’S GO OVER OUR PROGRAMS AT BREAKTHROUGH FIRST. WE

BRIAN; SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER

JILL: WE HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY FOLKS THAT SAY THEY LISTEN TO THE SHOW AND WANT TO KNOW MORE AND IF THEY ARE LISTENING AND THIS IS REALLY MORE INFORMATION. WITH THIS ECONOMY PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT BRING SECURITY RIGHT NOW, SO WHAT ARE THE PROGRAMS? FREE CONSULTATION, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FREE AND YES WE ARE A BUSINESS TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT BUT WE FIRST OF ALL DO FREE CONSULATATIONS, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ASK CERTAIN QUESTIONS, NAME, WEIGHT? NO. WE SIT DOWN IN WHAT IS LIKE A MINI COUNSELING SESSION AND TALK.

BRIAN: THE FAMILY SOMETIMES COMES ALONG OR NOT AND IT IS NICE TO GET THE FULL PICTURE. WHEN PEOPLE START TALKING WE CAN HELP THEM CRAFT A SPECIFIC PROGRAM FOR THEIR NEEDS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM. SO WHAT DO WE OFFER THAT WILL MEET THE NEED.

JILL: PEOPLE WALK IN WITH A PROBLEM AND ONCE WE TALK WITH THEM, WE FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER TYPE OF PROBLEM. THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN SAY THAT THEY NEED THERAPY. ALL OF THIS CAN COME TO LIGHT IN THE CONSULATATION AND NO MATTER WHAT YOUR TIME OR YOUR FLEXIBILITY YOU CAN WALK OUT WITH A PLAN AND WE KNOW FROM THE SCIENCE OF TREATING ADDICTION IS THAT THE PLAN IS 50% OF THE WAY TO GET TO THE CURE. WE KNOW THERE IS NOT A MAGIC BULLET FOR THE ADDICTION BUT WE KNOW THAT HAVING THE PLAN STARTS THE INERTIA TO THE GOAL.

BRIAN: THE PIECE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT ONCE WE HAVE ASSESSED YOU AND HELP THE INDIVIDUAL SEE THE NEED. SOME COME IN TO OUR PROGRAM FOR DETOX BUT IN PATIENT OR OUT PATIENT? WE CAN PROVIDE THE OUT PATIENT BUT IF THEY ARE FACING MEDICAL THREATS, WE HAVE TO REFER THEM TO A HOSPITAL. ONCE COMPLETED THEY CAN COME BACK TO US AND BEGIN TREATMENT.

JILL: YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN, ESPECIALLY ,,THE FREE IS IMPORTANT. KNOWING WHERE YOU STAND IN THE CONSULTATION AND THE NEXT STEP. WHERE CAN I GET HELP. WE CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.

BRIAN: GET THE BALL ROLLING, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IT IS DIFFICULT TO EVEN CALL, WE HAVE A 24/7 LINE THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL ANY TIME OF DAY TO GET INFORMATION ON OUR PROGRAM. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE THE NUMBER IS THERE AND ALL INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY NEED, WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE TALK TO YOU AND HELP YOU WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

JILL: I WANT TO JUST SAY YES THAT THIS IS SOUNDING LIKE A SHAM WOW COMMERCIAL BUT HERE IS THE THING, WE ARE LOOKING AT A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE. WHEN YOU START GETTING OUT THE INFORMATION AND TURN IT INTO A LIFE CHANGE IT WORKS. WE WILL THEN GO TO OUR TOPIC TODAY.

BRIAN: OUT FAMILIES IN RECOVERY IS FREE ALSO, IT IS ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT 6PM FOR FAMILIES DEALING WITH THE ADDICTION OF A LOVED ONE. THERE ARE SO MANY LIVING WITH ADDICTION IN THE HOME AND IT HAS A PERVASIVE WAY OF EFFECTING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AROUND SOMEONE.

JILL: YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR TREATMENT CENTER TO COME, YOU WILL HAVE TO SIGN CONFIDENTIALITY FORMS AND

BRIAN: OR EVEN SOMEONE WITH A PROBLEM OF RELAPSE,

JILL: FAMILIES NEED TO TALK, TUESDAY NIGHTS AT OUR LOCATION IN NORCROSS. THE LAST FREE PROGRAM IS EVERY SATURDAY 5-6PM SMART RECOVERY. IT IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM AND WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THIS GROUP. IT IS PEER LED AND NON 12 STEP GROUP. YOU HAVE RESEARCHED IT BRIAN.

BRIAN: WE LAST WEEK HAD TWO GREAT INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PLACED THEMSELVES IN LEADERSHIP FOR SMART AND IT TRULY IS A PROGRAM WORTHY OF ATTENDING SHOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR COPING SKILLS AND MAINTAINING YOUR SOBRIETY.

JILL: I TELL YOU WHAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT FOR FREE PROGRAMS, A FREE CONSULTATION, FAMILIES IN RECOVERY AND SMART RECOVERY WHICH MEETS THREE TIMES A WEEK, TUESDAY 7:30 TO 8:30 AND THURSDAY 5-6PM, SATURDAY 5-6 PM. WE ARE GOING TO SEGUAY INTO RELAPSE PREVENTION. 770-226-0920 IS THE NUMBER AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

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JILL: WELCOME BACK TO THE BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR, 770-226-0920 THAT IS THE NUMBER 770-226-0920 THIS IS A CALL IN SHOW APPLY DIRECTLY TO FOREHEAD. BREAKTHROUGH ADDICITON RECCOVERY HOUR, APPLY DIRECTLY TO FORHEAD. OUR MINI INFOMERCIAL FOR THE SHOW TODAY, I TALKED BRIAN INTO IT, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IN NORCROSS. I AM ALL FOR THIS SO LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND SOMEONE MAY HEAR WHAT THEY NEED TO HEAR.

BRIAN: WWW.BREAKTHROUGHADDICTIONRECOVERY.COM, THE INFORMATION IS THERE ONLINE, YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU NEED. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE FREE PROGRAMS SO LETS TALK ABOUT THE LOWER COST FOR PROGRAMS.

JILL: WHEN MOST THINK OF TREATMENT OR REHAB AND THEY THINK MONTHS AWAY FROM HOME FOR $35 TO $45 THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEN RELAPSE, SO THAT FEELS TERRIBLE AND YOU HAVE MADE AN INVESTMENT AND FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE FAILED. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A FEW MINUTES. WE WANTED TO GET THIS OUT TO YOU SO SOME OF OUR LOWER COSTS WHICH REALLY ARE AS AFFORDABLE AS A WEEKLY MANI/PEDI AND GYM MEMBERSHIP.

BRIAN: A LOT OF FOLKS COME IN AND WANT TO FIND A PLACE FOR A FAMILY MEMBER COMING OUT OF INCARCERATION OR HOSPITALIZATION. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS WORTH GETTING TO. WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE START THINKING OF OVERCOMING BAD HABITS OR BEHAVIOR AND THEY WANT TO STOP BUT DON’T KNOW HOW AND THIS IS WHERE IN OUR PROGRAM WE CAN GIVE TOOLS TO HELP THEM. WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES IS PEOPLE PLACES AND THINGS

JILL: THE OTHER IS INDIVIDUAL THERAPY, OUR THERAPISTS WHICH ARE VERY HIGHLY TRAINED AND CREDENTIALED FOCUS IN ON HOW BEHAVIOR AND ADDICTION GO HAND IN HAND. WE TAKE INSURANCE AND THERE ARE A LOT THAT LEAVE THE CLIENT WITH JUST A $25 COPAY TO SEE A HIGHLY SKILLED THERAPIST,

BRIAN: AT BREAKTHROUGH WE SPECAILIZE IN ADDICTIONS AND WE HELP PEOPLE BECAUSE THOSE IN OUR PROGRAM NOT ONLY UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH THEY UNDERSTAND THE ADDICTION ISSUES AND HELP THEMSELVES.

JILL: JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS IS MAKING SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH THERAPY AND THIS IS A CALL IN SHOW SO CALL US ANYTIME, 770-226-0920 THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS AND NOW GOING INTO THE MEAT OF THE PROGRAM AND THAT IS THE INTENSIVE PROGRAMS AND THE CENTERPIECE IS INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT DAY OR EVENING. MANY PROGRAMS RUN DURING THE DAY AND WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW TO OFFER EVENING GROUPS AND THAT WAY SOME HAVE NO NEED TO LEAVE WORK FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

BRIAN: MOST THAT HAVE JOBS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT BEING INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM,,,,,,,,IT LASTS FOR FOUR WEEKS AND SO THAT IS NINE HOURS A WEEK FOR 4 WEEKS, AND THE INTENSITY YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH OVERCOMING ADDICTION AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THE OTHER OBLIGATIONS

JILL: ANTI CRAVING MEDICATIONS AND NUTRITION EDUCATION AND THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. THE FREE CONSULTATION GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE DO IS WHAT YOU NEED.

BRIAN: IT IS NEVER A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH, WE TRY TO MEET YOU AT YOUR UNIQUE SITUATION AND WORK THE PROGRAM TO WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD AND WHAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE. WE CAN LOOK AT INSURANCE BUT SOME FOLKS AREN’T COVERED AND SOME ONLY PARTIALLY, SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE VARIABLES AND MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU.

JILL: THAT HIGHLIGHTS ALL OF IT AND THERE REALLY IS A LOT MORE. IN TALKING ABOUT IT WHEN SOMEONE LEAVES THE INTENSE PROGRAM AND GOES TO AFTERCARE, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN TEACH IS RELAPSE PREVENTION.

BRIAN: RIGHT, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING OVER REARLY RECOVERY, IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE MOVE INTO ADDICTION AND TEACHING THE RULES OF RECOVERY. IF YOU WILL STOP DRINKING AND DRUGGING THE BRAIN CAN HEAL.

JILL: THINK ABOUT THE DAY TODAY. SOMEONE OUT THERE IS ASSOCIATING THE WEATHER WITH CURLING UP IN THEIR FAVORITE CHAIR WITH A GLASS OF WINE

BRIAN: OR BOTTLE

JILL: WELL, RELAPSE DOESN’T START WITH OH THERE IS A GLASS IN FRONT OF ME, WE HEAR THOSE STORIES, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC WAYS THE BRAIN WORKS AND A DAY LIKE THIS CAN START A CASCADE OF NEUROTRANSMISSIONS WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT RELAPSE PREVENTION.

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JILL: I LUV LOUAVULL, OK NO MORE NCAA I LUV LOUAVULL AND ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDICTION. 770-226-0920 AND THIS IS A CALL IN SHOW AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RELAPSE

BRIAN: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRAIN CHANGE AND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM RESEARCH IS THAT EVERY PERSON CHANGES THEIR BRAIN BY DRINKING AND DRUGGING TOO MUCH AND CHANGE THE CHEMICAL BALANCE IN THEIR BRAIN. WE LOOK AT THIS TO HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND, IT ISN’T LACK OF CHARACTER OR WILL POWER. WHEN THE CHEMISTRY OF THE BRAIN CHANGES AND THEN THEY CHOOSE TO STOP DRINKING THE BRAIN HAS A FANTASTIC MEMORY AND

JILL: THAT IWHY I SAY IT IS A DISEASE OF MEMORY,

BRIAN: IT IS, THE MOMROY DOESN’T GO AWAY, AND THEN THE BRAIN SAYS WHERE IS THE DRINK OR THE PILL?

JILL: WE ARE GEARED FOR SURVIVAL AND OUR BRAIN IS LOOKING FOR PLEASURE STABILITY AND SECURITY AND SO WHAT IT WILL DO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS OR VISUAL CUES OR AUDIO CUES WILL CAUSE IT TO BRING SOMETHING TO MIND AND START A CASCADE OF CONNECTIONS THAT BRING IN WHAT WE CALL CRAVING AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT JUST ON A DAY LIKE THIS, THE MEMORY CAN CASCADE DOWN INTO A BEHAVIOR AND THEY ARE POURING AND DON’T KNOW HOW THEY GOT THERE. WHAT WE HAVE TO TEACH IS HOW TO BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND LOOKING AT A DAY LIKE THIS AND ASKING ABOUT THE TRIGGERS, SADNESS OR ANTSY, THE BRAIN WILL SAY THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO WORK AND THAT IS THE WINE, IT HAS ALWAYS HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT. IT IS NOT AS CLEAR AS THAT USUALLY BUT THAT IS AN INTERESTING THOUGHT AND YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE THE WEATHER EFFECT HOW YOUR CRAVINGS BEGIN.

BRIAN: FAMILY MEMBERS DON’T UNDERSTAND CRAVINGS. BUT TIME OF DAY IS A VERY LARGE TRIGGER FOR MOST PEOPLE. MANY SAY THAT THEIR TIME IS FROM 7 TO 12. THEY PLAN AND THINK THROUGH THEIR TIME. IT IS A BIG ISSUE THAT WE DEAL WITH AND WE TRY TO FIND WAYS TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY OR ERADICATE THAT THOUGHT AND REPLACE IT SO THAT THE CRAVING WILL SUBSIDE.

JILL : WE TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER, YOU CAN TURN ON THE NCAA TOURNAMENT CAN BE ASSOCIATE WITH LAST YEAR WHILE YOU WERE WATCHING IT AND WHAT YOU DRANK OR WHAT YOU ATE. YOU JUST MAY BE HAVING INTENSIFIED CRAVINGS WHILE WATCHING SOMETHING THAT YOU ENJOY.

BRIAN: EXACTLY JILL, THESE ARE CALLED TRIGGERS. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE HAS TRIGGERS. SOMETIMES IT COULD BE FOOD, OR FAMILIAR PEOPLE.

JILL: IF YOU HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED YOUR TRIGGERS, THEN YOU BASICALLY ARE AT YOU KNOW THE MERCY OF THE TRIGGERS,

BRIAN; WE HAVE A CALL HERE,

JILL: TONY IN ATLANTA, HOW IS IT GOIN? THIS IS SOMEONE THAT KNOWS ME, OK WHAT IS ON YOUR MIND

TONY: I RECENTLY TOOK PART IN A 12 STEP PROGRAM AND WHEN IT COMES TO RELAPSE I WALKED AWAY FROM THE 12 STEP MEETING FEELING LIKE IT WAS ME AGAINST THE WORLD OR DAVID VS. GOLIATH AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE WITH BREAKTHROUGH AND SMART RECOVERY IS RELAPSE PREVENTION TOOL AND HOW IT MAKES IT MORE LIKE MULTIPLE WITH ME AGAINST THE WORLD.

BRIAN: WHAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST TRIGGERS YOU FIGHT.\

TONY: ONE FOR ME WAS LONLINESS. AND WHAT I TRY TO DO IS MAKE A GRATITUDE LIST AND TAKE FIVE MINUTES OR AN HOUR AND WRITE OUT WHAT YOU ARE THANKFUL FOR AND LOOK OVER IT AND SEE WHAT WHOULD BE EFFECTED IF YOU DID DRINK. IT IS A POSITIVE MESSAGE, IT ISN’T ABOUT BEATING YOURSELF UP IT IS ABOUT SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE.

JILL: THAT IS GREAT TONY. WHEN YOU FIRST CAME INTO THE PROGRAM SOME OF THE THINGS IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU FEEL LIKE THINGS GOT BETTER WHEN YOU STOPPED USING OR DID YOU LEARN NEW WAYS TO COPE.

TONY: I HAD TO LEARN BUT I MENTIONED I AM ABLE TO DEAL WITH MORE CLARITY.

JILL: THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE

TONY: MY DRINKING WAS EFFECTING ALL AREAS OF MY LIFE AND HAD GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL AND THROUGH BREAKTHROUGH AND THE TOOLS IT WAS NICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK.

BRIAN: TONY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING AND THANKS THAT YOU SHARED AND I AM SO GLAD THAT T HE PROGRAMS HAVE HELPED.

JILL: WE ARE DOWN TO A BREAK AND SO 770-226-0920 STAY WITH US WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

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JILL: WE ARE BACK 770-226-0920 WITH BRIAN FUJII

BRIAN: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RELAPSE AND JUST TOOK A CALL FROM TONY WHO GAVE HIS EXPERIENCES, ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS WE ASK AT THE FREE CONSULTATION IS “HAVE YOU EVERY TRIED TO CUT BACK ON YOUR DRINKING?” IT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE BRAIN IS TRAINED TO EXPECT IT. WE LOOK AT REPLAPSE PREVENTION, THE TRIGGERS WHICH ARE PEOPLE PLACE THINGS EVENTS TIMES OF DAY FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND THAT IS THE WAY THE BRAIN ACTS. YOU DON’T THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS. I KNOW OF SOME WHO HAD A TIME WITH DEATH OR JOB LOSS, MANY ARE FACING THAT OR RELATIONSHIP CRISES.

JILL: THERE ARE SOME GREAT WORDS HERE, ANCILLARY QUANTIFY CATASTROPHIC, OK CATASTROPHIC EVENTS ARE WHAT CAUSE PEOPLE TO CALL US. DIVORCE, DEATH, THEY CALL AND CRY FOR HELP. YOU KNOW THE TRIGGERS WE CAN REITTERATE THOSE. WHAT WE SPOKE OF EARLIER, RAINY WEATHER, THE BASKETBALL GAME, SPRING BREAK WHICH WE HAVEN’T HAD THAT DISCUSSION YET. THE THINK IS IS THAT ALL OF THESE JUST THE THOUGHT OF THEM AND PKLACEING YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION IN YOUR MIND AND START PUTTING THE BRAIN IN THE BEHAVIOR AND THEN THE USE.

BRIAN: SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TRIGGER, IF BEING AROUND CERTAIN PEOPLE CAUSES YOU TO THINK ABOUT USING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TEACH IS HOW TO MAKE NEW FRINEDS. I KNOW THAT IS HARD BUT, IT IS AMAZING IF AT BREAKTHROUGH THEY DEVELOP POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS.

JILL: THAT IS TOUGH ESPECIALLY FOR OLKDER PEOPLE LIKE US BUT YOU KNOW IT IS EASIER TO STAY HOME AND NOT TALK TO ANYONE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE DRINKING, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE.

BRAIN: WE ARE COMING DOWN TO THE BREAK, 770-226-0920 GIVE US A CALL, STAY WITH US WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

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JILL: WELCOME BACK TO THE LAST SEGMENT OF OUR SHOW THE BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR, YOU KNOW WITH OUR LAST SEGMENT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RELAPSE PREVENTION AND WE MAY NEED TO CONTINUE. WE STARTED THE PROGRAM WITH OUR PROGRAMS AND OUR SHAMELESS INFOMERCIAL BUT WE NEED TO

BRIAN: BUT HELPFUL

JILL: YES, ONE OF OUR FREE PROGRAMS STARTS IN AN HOUR IN NORCROSS, IT IS SMART RECOVERY FROM 5 TO6 AND CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE AT WWW.BREAKTHROUGHADDICTIONRECOVERY.COM AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND IT IS A FREE CONSULTATION OR ON THE PHONE, THAT IS HOW WE STARTED THE SHO, WITH THE PROGRAMS, OBIOUSLY THAT ISN’T GOING TO GET SOMEONE TO WALK THROUGH THE DOOR

BRIAN; WELL THEY COULD BE LISTENING AND THINKING THERE MAY BE HOPE AT WHATEVER LEVEL THEY ARE COMFORTABLE AND SO MANY TIMES WHEN THEY ARE TALKING TO THE FAMILY THEY MAY SAY THAT THEY WERE ARRESTED OR IN DANGER OF LOSING A JOB. THAT MAY BE THE INITIAL REASON BUT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT IS NOT WHAT KEEPS THEM IN RECOVERY. FEAR IS NOT ENOUGH AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TREATMENT AND RECOVERY.

JILL: EXACTLY AND WHAT I HAVE NOTICE BRIAN WHEN SOMEONE IS COMING IN TO PLEASE THE FAMILY MEMBER IF THAT FIRST WEEK CAN BE ROCKY BUT THEN FINALLY OVER THE WEEKS THAT FOLL0OW YOU START TO RECOVERY AND TOUCH THAT PERSON WHEHERE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE IN RECOVERY FOR THEMSELVES. YOU CAN’T DRAG SOMEONE IN AND EXPECT THEM TO BE COMPLETELY COMPLIANT. IT TAKES INPUT AND TIME.

BRIAN: THAT IS WHERE THE FAMILY IS NEEDED, IT IS SO TRUE, IF A PERSON COMES IN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE FINE…..THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE HUNDERSTAND …”FEAR ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH.”

JILL: HONESTY AND WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE. WE LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS SHOW BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE HERE THIS THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PATH. NOT JUST FOR THE LOVED ONE BUT FOR THE FAMILY.

BRIAN: IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TIME HAS RUN OUT AND WE WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATIONS NEXT TIME.

JILL: THANKS EVERYONE FOR JOINING US TODAY AND TUNE IN NEXT WEEK, REMEMBER THAT BREAKTHROUGH IS DIFFERENT AND WE CAN HELP.

BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR

MARCH 21, 2009

SMART RECOVERY AND TREATMENT PROGRAMS

BRIAN: WELCOME TO THE BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR, WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH TWO SPECIAL GUESTS, JEFF AND TONY FROM OUR SMART RECOVERY PROGRAM. IF YOU WANT TO CALL TODAY AND GET IN ON THE CONVERSATION AND GET SOME INFORMATION, CALL US AT 770-226-0920. HEY GUYS.

GEOFF: HEY BRIAN,

BRIAN: I AM SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE TALKING ABOUT SMART RECOVERY AND THIS PROGRAM HAS TAKEN OFF AT BREAKTHROUGH AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IT HAS BEEN GETTING A LOT OF GOOD RESPONSE. GEOFF IS CERTIFIED TO LEAD THE SMART RECOVERY PROGRAM AND GEOFF HOW IS THAT

GEOFF: IT HAS ENABLED ME TO LEARN HOW TO RUN AN EFFECTIVE SMART RECOVERY.

BRIAN: SMART STANDS FOR

GEOFF: SELF MANAGEMENT AND RECOVERY TRAINING, IT GIVES THE PERSON THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES REGARDING THEIR RECOVERY.

BRIAN: WE SEE PEOPLE AT OUR FREE CONSULTS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROMOTE IS SMART RECOVERY. WE TRY TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT RECOVERY IS MULTI FACETED AND WE HELP THEM UNDERSTAND, MEDICATIONS AND ALSO VERY IMPORTANT IS THE PSYCHOEDUCATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT GEOFF WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVEN’T HEARD OF SMART. SHARE SOME OF THE UNIQUE FEATURES.

GEOFF: IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM TO HELP FOCUS ON THE ADDICTION AND SHARE IN A METTING SETTING THE PROBLEMS AND HOW TO COPE.

BRIAN: TONY HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SMART

TONY: SINCE COMING TO BREAKTHROUGH ABOUT A YEAR. WHAT I FIND ABOUT IT IS THAT THE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO DEAL WITH THE ADDICTION AND RECOVER, NO SHAME FEELING LIKE THEY CAN TAKE THIS ON AND BEAT THIS AND THEY ARE NOT THE ADDICTION. THEY ARE GREAT HUMAN BEINGS WHO HAVE A PROBLEM AND A DISEASE THAT CAN BE TREATED AND GO ON TO LIVE FULLER LIVES.

BRIAN; WE SEE AT BREAKTHROUGH THAT YOU KNOW ADDICTION IS A DISEASE AND ATTACKS THE BRAIN AND THE PHYSIIOLOGICAL BODY AND CAUSES DESTRUCTION AND IS NOT JUST A TRAGEDY BUT A HOPE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, 770-226-0920 ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IN RECOVERY IT IS NOT AN “I” PROGRAM. HAVING SUPPORT FROM THOSE WITH SIMILAR GOALS.

GEOFF: OUR GOAL IS ABSTINENCE FROM ALL DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND THAT UH STARTS WITH GOING TO THE MEETINGS AND BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS PROBLEMS AND HAVING OTHERS HELP YOU AND IN THE EVERY DAY KIND OF SCENARIOIS AND

BRIAN: SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT STAYING IN RECOVERY IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE NOT THE DISEASE. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND HELP WITH YOUR ADDICTION AND NOW WE KNOW SO MANY ARE ADDICTED TO PAIN MEDICATION, WE HAVE SOME GREAT PROGRAMS AND A GREAT PLAN TO HELP YOU OR A LOVED ONE, WE ARE COMING TO THE BREAK, THE NUMBER IS 770-226-0920 AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU GIVE US A CALL AND INSIGHT. STAY WITH US.

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BRIAN: WELCOME BACK AND I AM HERE WITH MY GUESTS GEOFF AND TONY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SMART RECOVERY, A PEER PROGRAM AT BREAKTHROUGH. YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT SMART AND OUR SERVICES AT BREAKTHROUGH. GO TO OUR WEBSITE AT WWW.BREAKTHROUGHADDICTIONRECOVERY.COM AND VISIT OUR SERVICES OFFERED FOR THOSE STRUGGLING AT THIS TIME WITH ADDICTION. YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU OR A LOVED ONE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 770-226-0920. BEFORE THE BREAK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW BREAKTHROUGH LOOKS AT ADDICTION AS A DISEASE. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT ADDICTION FIRST OF ALL IS A PRIMARY DISEASE AND IT IS SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT AND NOT A SYMPTOM OF ANY OTHER DISEASE AND HAS ITS OWN SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS. WE DO KNOW THAT IT IS CHRONIC AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE OVER IN A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS. IT IS ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS LONG TERM AND IS VERY MANAGEABLE. WHEN SOMEONE IS STRUGGLING THEY FEEL HOPELESS, THEY TRY TO BEAT IT ALONE AND HAVE NOT HAD SUCCESS. AT BREAKTHROUGH WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH. SOME OF THE MEDICATIONS THAT WE CAN OFFER WILL HELP IN DECREASING CRAVINGS AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GOOD INFO THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE DESIRE AND THE WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THIS THING WORK. THE DISEASE WILL ONLY GET WORSE IF YOU DON’T ADDRESS IT RIGHT NOW. IT IS PROGRESSIVE AND OVER TIME YOUR BRAIN CHEMISTRY WILL CHANGE AND A LOT TIMES GUILT AND SHAME IS LEVIED ON FOLKS IN ADDICTION AND NOBODY GETS THE HELP THEY NEED. HERE IN ATLANTA WE WANT TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED TO GET PAST THE STIGMA AND THE GUILT AND SHAME. THERE IS HELP OUT THERE, ALCOHOLISM AND DRUG ADDICITON IS A CHRONIC DISEASE AND YOU CAN GET THE HELP THAT YOU NEED. THAT IS WHY GEOFF AND TONY ARE HERE TODAY. THERE IS A PEER SUPPORT SYSTEM CALLED SMART RECOVERY. WE OFFER THIS GROUP THREE TIMES A WEEK, TUESDAY EVENINGS 7:30 TO 8:30 AND THURSDAY EVENINGS 6 TO 7 AND SATURDAY FROM 5 TO 6. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A CLIENT JUST COME TO A MEETING. YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION AT OUR WEBSITE AND MEET THESE FOLKS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM ARE.

GEOFF: BRIAN DURING THE MEETINGS WE TRY TO INTRODUCE SOME SORT OF TOOL THAT THE PERSON CAN TAKE WITH THEM AND START USING IMMEDIATELY. ONE GOOD ONE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE ABCS. YOU MAY HAVE AN EVENT THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOU ANGRY OR

THIS ACTION IS REALLY GOING TO MAKE YOU UPSET AND THROUGH LOOKING AT THE ACTION YOU CAN KIND OF FORMULATE A NEW BELIEF THAT THIS ISN’T SUCH A BAD THING AND THROUGH THAT YOU CAN HAVE AN EFFECTIVE NEW THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

BRIAN: IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS TOOL BUILDS HOPE AND NOW THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHEREAS BEFORE THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY COULD NOT STOP. THESE ACTIVIATING EVENTS COULD THEY BE AN ARGUMENT WITH A SPOUSE OR A CONFLICT AT WORK?

GEOFF: EXACTLY AND IT CAN BE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR AS SIMPLE AS SOMEONE CUTTING YOU OFF IN TRAFFIC. OF COURSE NOT IN ATLANTA. ANYWAY, AN EFFECTIVE NEW WAY OF THINKING IS THAT MAYBE SOMEONE DIDN’T SEE ME, OR THEY WERE LATE GETTING TO WORK, ETC., THINKING IT THROUGH AND DISPUTING THE FIRST REACTION AND IT WILL TAKE A WEIGHT OFF OF YOUR SHOULDERS, THIS ANGER THAT YOU CARRY OVER INTO YOUR PERSONAL LIFE AND YOUR HOME LIFE. IT IS A REALLY GOOD TOOL TO USE IN ALL AREAS OF YOUR LIFE.

BRIAN: SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TAKING CONTROL BACK RATHER THAN THE SITUATION CONTROLLING. 7702260920 IS THE NUMBER AND WE HAVE A MINUTE LEFT BEFORE THE BREAK SO PLEASE CALL AND GET IN ON THE CONVERSATION.

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BRIAN: 770-226-0920 BE PART OF THE SMART RECOVERY CONVERSATION. I AM BRIAN FUJII WITH BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SMART RECOVERY THAT MEETS AT OUR LOCATION IN NORCROSS. GEOFF AND TONY ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM HELPS THESE INDIVIDUALS STAY CLEAN AND SOBER. ADDICTION TRULY IS A BRAIN DISEASE. ADDICTION TRULY HAS IMPACTED THE BRAIN IN SUCH A WAY THAT NOW THE PERSON IS IN SOME WAY FORCED TO USE THE SUBSTANCE TO FEEL BETTER.

TONY: I RECENTLY HAD AN EXPERIENCE MY WIFE AND I WERE ARGUING AND THAT WAS THE BIG ACTIVATING EVENT AND I CAME SO CLOSE TO GOING TO A BAR AND DRINKING IT AWAY LIKE I WOULD USUALLY DO, I WAS SO CLOSE, MY KEYS IN MY HAND READY TO GO AND THEN I STARTED THINKING OF THE CONSEQUENCES, IT MAY MASK THE PAIN BUT THE END RESULT WOULD BE TO MAKE THINGS WORSE. MY WIFE WOULD BE DISSAPOINTED AND MY OWN DISAPPOINTMENT AND SO IT CHANGED MY BELIEF BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT I AWAS AWARE OF THE CONSEQUENCE AND THE ACTIVATING EVENT AND THAT CHANGED MY BELIEF THAT I COULD OVERCOME IT AND DEAL WITHOUT DRINKING. SO I DECIDED TO WATCH A MOVIE AND DIDN’T DRINK.

BRIAN: I HOPE THOSE OF YOU LISTENING UNDERSTAND THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE GOOD CHOICES AND IT IS IN THESE CHOICES THAT WE ACHIEVE GOALS OF MAINTAINING SOBRIETY AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING AND A STRUGGLE BUT TONY AS YOU ARE STAYING MORE AND MORE CLEAN AND SOBER OVER TIME YOU FIND THAT LIFE IS BECOMING MORE MANAGEABLE AND YOU CAN SEE THINGS MORE OBJECTIVELY AND FEEL MORE INNER STRENGTH.

TONY: ABSOLUTELY, I SEE THE WORLD WITH MORE CLARITY AND CONFRONT MY PROBLEMS WITH MORE STRENGTH AND A LOT MORE BRAVERY

BRIAN: WITH THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE YOU NOW HAVE SOMETHING TO USE AND IN THE USING OF IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN NOT ONLY YOUR THINKING AND BEHAVIOR.

TONY: YEAH IT IS MUCH NICER FEELING TO WAKE UP PROUD OF OVERCOMING THAN HUNGOVER.

BRIAN: 770-226-0920, PLEASE CALL WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT AND YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO MANAGE THEIR ADDICTION AND FIND THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. THE MORE INFORMATION YOU HAVE THE BETTER YOU WILL FEEL. GEOFF, IS THIS SOMETHING ONLY UNIQUE TO ATLANTA?

GEOFF: SMART IS A WORLDWIDE PROGRAM AND HAS 300 MEETINGS WORLDWIDE. AND WHAT IS GREAT IS THAT IT PROVIDES TRAINING FOR NEW FACILITATORS AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED YOU SHOULD COME AND CHECK OUT A MEETING AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT AND THEN LEARN HOW TO BECOME A FACILITATOR IN YOUR OWN AREA AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BE SUCCESSFUL.

BRIAN: THAT IS A WONDERFUL OFFER WHAT A GREAT IDEA. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN YOUR AREA YOU CAN COME TO OUR PROGRAM AND THEN TALK WITH GEOFF OR TONY AND ASK FOR HELP TO GET IT GOING IN YOUR AREA. 770-226-0920 IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER BREAK AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HANG IN THERE AND BE A PART OF THIS AND TAKE A LOOK OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

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BRIAN: WELCOME BACK, WE ARE DISCUSSING A NEW APPROACH AND IT IS CALLED SMART RECOVERY. AT BREAKTHROUGH WE ARE NON 12 STEP AND WE USE MEDICATIONS TO HELP CURB CRAVINGS ALONG WITH SUPPORT GROUPS LIKE SMART RECOVERY TO HELP MAINTAIN THAT DESIRE TO REMAIN ABSTINENCE. TONY AT THE BREAK WE SPOKE OF YOUR STORY, WOULD YOU SHARE?

TONY: I STARTED DRINKING 10 YEARS AGO, FOR 9 OF THEM I WOULD DRINK DAILY IN EXCESS. IT REALLY WHEN IT CAME TO THE POINT I REALIZED THAT I COULD NOT REMEMBER A DAY THAT I WENT WITHOUT DRINKING FOR ALMOST 8 YEARS AND I SHARED IT WITH MY FAMILY AND WITH THEIR SUPPORT AND MY WIFE AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT FROM MY WIFE AND ALSO THE ENCOURAGMENT FROM THE PROGRAM AT BREAKTHROUGH AND SMART, THERE WAS SOMETHING FOR ME I MADE THE CHOICE TO MAKE CHANGES IN MY LIFE.

BRIAN: AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE CHANGES DO YOU FIND THIS TO BE BENEFICIAL SUCH AS FAMILY AND WORK? DO YOU FIND THAT YOUR LIFE IS MORE MANAGEABLE.

TONY: ABSOLUTELY I LOOK AT THINGS MORE POSITIVELY AND IT IS FUNNY, MY WIFE AND I WERE TALKING THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT HOW SHE IS HAVING TO LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH ME WHEN I AM NOT DRINKING AND SHE DOESN’T SEE THAT GUY ANYMORE. WE ARE RELEARNING OUR RELATIONSHIP AND OUR .

BRIAN: I WISH OUR AUDIENCE COULD SEE YOUR FACE. HIS LIFE REALLY HAS CHANGED FOLKS. THE SUPPORT AND THE EDUCATION THAT WE GIVE AT BREAKTHROUGH WE ALSO OFFER SOMETHING FOR FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO RELATE TO THE FAMILY MEMBER NOW THAT THEY NO LONGER ARE USING. WE HAVE A PROGRAM TWO IN FACT THAT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. WE HAVE FAMILY EDUCATION ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS 6PM TMO 7:30 AND WE EDUCATE THE FAMILY ON THE DISEASE OF ADDICITON AND RECOVERY. THE OTHER IS FAMILIES IN RECOVERY WHICH IS STRICTLY A SUPPORT GROUP ON TUESDAY EVENINGS FROM 6PM TO 7:30 AND THEY CAN COME WITH THEIR LOVED ONE ON TUESDAY FOR SMART RECOVERY. IT IS LED BY OUR OWN DR. LOIS DUTTON WHO WORKS WITH FAMILY MEMBERS ONLY TO TRY AND FIND WAYS TO RECONNECT WITH THEIR LOVED ONES IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN NOW BE SUPPORTING THEMSELVES AND THE FAMILY. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION AND YOU CAN ALSO CALL US TODAY AT 770-226-0920 AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SMART RECOVERY. IT IS HELPFUL TO LOOK AT SMART AND THE ATTENDANCE. HOW MANY ARE USUALLY AT THE MEETING?

GEOFF: YOU DON’T HAVE TO TALK YOU CAN SIT AND LISTEN AND THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, THESE ARE UPBEAT MEETINGS AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO LISTEN TO EXPERIENCES OF OVERUSE IT IS A FOCUS ON HOW TO GAIN YOUR LIFE BACK. THAT IS THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING AND IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE YOU DON’T HAVE TO SHARE AND THERE CAN BE FROM 8 TO 10 PEOPLE AT A MEETING AND THE SUCCESS OF THE GROUPS HAVE FORCED US TO START AN EXTRA MEETING AND AS WE GROW WE WILL ADD MORE.

TONY: ALSO IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT SMART IS THAT NO ONE ROMANTICIZES THE USE OF ALCOHOL OR ADDICTION THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIVE WITHOUT THE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

BRIAN: I LOVE THAT, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. HELPING PEOPLE LOOK AT SOBRIETY AS A LIFESTYLE AND RECEIVE THE QUALITY AS A RESULT. 770-226-0920

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BRIAN; WELCOME BACK TO THE BREAKTHROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY HOUR, WE KNOW THAT SMART RECOVERY LIKE BREAKTHROUGH IS A NON 12 STEP RECOVERY PROGRAM.

GEOFF: ;IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A 12 STEP AND ARE NOT GETTING WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF IT GIVE SMART A CHANCE AND WE CAN GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT CAN HELP YOU NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. WE CAN GIVE YOU THE TOOLS TO HELP OVERCOME THE ADDICTION.

BRIAN; SO IT DOESN’T MATTER THE ADDICTION?

GEOFF: THAT IS RIGHT BRIAN.

BRIAN: AT BREAKTHROUGH WE WOULD WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THE ISSUES CAN BE MANAGED. AS TONY SAID HIS WIFE IS NOW LEARNING HOW TO RELATE TO HIM AGAIN. WE TEACH THIS AT BREAKTHROUGH, WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVATION.

TONY: IT IS NICE TO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND FEEL ALIVE AND ENERGIZED.

BRIAN: WE ALSO TEACH THAT OF HOW THE BRAIN CHANGES AND ALSO THE HOPE IS THAT YOUR BRAIN CAN HEAL. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MARVELOUS BODY HAS HIGH RECUPERATION POWER AND ….WE FIND OUT WE CAN GET BETTER, TRULY MANAGE OUR DISEASE. I WANT TO CLOSE WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE TALK OF ADDICTION AND IT IS A PROBLEMATIC THING BUT I SEE THE HOPE THAT YOU HAVE SHARED, THIS IS ONE OF THE TOOLS, IT IS CALLED TOOLS FOR HAPPINESS., DON’T BLAME OTHERS, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING YOURSELF HAPPY. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?

TONY: I BELIEVE SIMPLY FOR ME MAKING A DECISION NOT TO DRINK IS A WAY TO KEEP MYSELF HAPPY AND I DON’T HAVE A REASON TO BLAME MYSELF OR OTHERS FOR MAKING ME UNHAPPY MY DRINKING MAKES ME UNHAPPY AND MY CHOICE NOT TO MAKES ME HAPPY.

BRIAN: GIVE YOURSELF PERMISSION TO MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. I HOPE THIS HAS HELPED YOU AND IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION GO TO OUR WEBSITE AT WWW.BREAKTHROUGHADDICTIONRECOVERY.COM, JOIN US NEXT WEEK, WE ARE DIFFERENT AND WE CAN HELP. THANKS FOR LISTENING.